canadian archaelogist zhichun jing, writing about the decline of the highly creative shang dynasty, said "...after a century the shang vitality slackened.
the initial diversity and creativity devolved into a dull sameness.
by the end we see that things like their pottery, architecture and artwork had become standardized and simplified.
The Watchtower LAWYERS have everything in place so that when the last of the original dinosaurs die, they will divide the WTS fortune among themselves in my opinion. It won't be long now. The end is near.
that would be something!! what do you base it on though?
Just as long as you seek out the answer in Watchtower literature or with the elders, and immediately accept the reply as a full-stop answer
just like in the sister talks. householder says "i dont really understand this or that", other person reads a scripture, householder says "oh ok, yup, makes perfect sense now". but if you dont accept the answer, or even if you're simply ok with the question staying a question and that you dont really think there's an answer to it.. then yeah, that just don't fly with them.
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the vocabulary!
the word "truth" literally makes me sick!
let me give you a quick behind the scene.
ya especially in the context "so-and-so is in the truth"......... truth isn't a place or an object, its a concept.. you cant be IN it. at least say "in the true religion" or something. same with "i'm a jehovah's witness" it doesn't work, it's "one of" or "witness of jehovah"
my personal rotten word is PRIVILEGE. privilege this privilege that, he has many privileges, reach out for privileges. passing the mic's: privilege. our turn to clean the hall: privilege. cleaning privilege?? WTF?
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my story - part 1. my story - part 2. in my previous thread (part 2) i stated that i would talk about my experience as a regular pioneer in this thread.
all of them took a special interest in me and gave me encouragement.
i told him i would think about it.
excellently described J, i can relate to almost all of it. perhaps one day when i have the time, i will write my own history.
i was trying to explain the mexico-malawi thing to someone without saying any direct accusations like "they're just after the real estate" or "they needed some big-publicity persecution"(because that would just shut the door on that convo.
) but i told all the basic facts, about not being registered as a religion in mexico and all that.
.....here's some of the response i got:.
One could almost compare it with the kind of information that the state run news services of the Soviet Union would present to their citizens
true that!
You may want to begin gradually, by presenting some seeming innocent information that might begin to open their minds.
seems like that will have to be the way. maybe mexico-malawi is too heavy of a blow to someone who still sees FDS as holy.
progress: today said person was "looking up the thing about mexico on the internet"!
more emails making the rounds.. .
the district conventions are right around the corner.
85-90 percent of "all scouting" done is done here.
haa i got that email too! i shook my head at each part
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hi everyone, i'm new here, been viewing the board for a while, decided to join yesterday.. so i'm about 95% convinced now the wts is bogus, but i'm still in coz as yall know leaving is the hardest part.
i plan on doing a fade to avoid the complete disconnection, but first want to gradually help my gf to see things too.
in the meantime, i'm just wondering how many of you are still "active" jdubs?
I am an elder. How about that?
i want to be in your cong :P
i remember when i was a kid in "the truth.
there was an elderly sister that had a heart attack during the meeting.
she made loud gasping sounds as she was holding on for dear life.
yes its totally nuts.
i've never seen anything like that happen to a brother giving a talk, so i didn't know they just send someone else up to keep going for him.
seen similar things in the audience tho. at a DC an elderly brother collapsed (he was near the stage in an area where almost everyone could see him), the paramedics came took him out, a little commotion in the immediate rows, whispering everywhere else, but never missed a beat of the program.
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you know whats always bothered me intensely?
.. when witnesses (esp.
pioneers) have all the little wt extras, such as the wt year agenda, the wt removable book covers, bible with their name printed on the leather cover, the rv book with the little tower logo on it, "pens from patterson" etc.
kurt, i'm gonna do that from now on!
i was trying to explain the mexico-malawi thing to someone without saying any direct accusations like "they're just after the real estate" or "they needed some big-publicity persecution"(because that would just shut the door on that convo.
) but i told all the basic facts, about not being registered as a religion in mexico and all that.
.....here's some of the response i got:.
i was trying to explain the mexico-malawi thing to someone without saying any direct accusations like "they're just after the real estate" or "they needed some big-publicity persecution"(because that would just shut the door on that convo.) but i told all the basic facts, about not being registered as a religion in mexico and all that. .....here's some of the response i got:
about mexico:
"that shows the faithfulness of these brothers to still be going to the meetings even without song, prayer and bibles! no other religion would do that!"
"of course we don't want the k-halls to be owned by the government... we're no part of the world."
and about malawi:
"they can't just make buying the party card a consciounce matter, it's based on the bible, its not something they can just decide."
i really want to help this person understand this........ but how?
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